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"2","908701","5","Re; Seaflight L.90 information||908701","According to an article "Small Italians" in the April 2001 Classic Fast Ferries Cyberzine, Seaflight completed only the prototype L.90 (in 1973). www.classicfastferries.com/cff/pdf/cff_2001_3.pdf","2005-10-06","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," "," ","902142"
"3","902142","5","Seaflight L.90 information||902142","I would like to receive information on the Seaflight L.90 hydrofoil which was built in Messina in the '70.
"4","888998","5","Small fast boat||888998","I am looking for a small fast boat that may be able to take 30 up to 50 passengers. My knowledge in boat is very low. This boat is needed to cross a fast stream river in Africa. We have a project of using this boat as a ferry boat.","2005-09-05","Okongo Justin ","nopswd"," ","email@example.com","5"
"5","870718","5","Re; Re; JUDICIAL SALE - VosKod-2||870718","Hi Gerry, IHS does not have a current email address for you. If you want to stay in contact, please send current email address to: firstname.lastname@example.org. Thanks!","2005-08-02","Barney C Black","poopdeck"," "," ","5"
"6","869664","5","Re; JUDICIAL SALE - VosKod-2||869664","Auction Date?
","2005-08-01","Gerry Levine","nopswd"," ","email@example.com","0"
"7","867548","5","JUDICIAL SALE - VosKod-2||867548","We have ac ourt order to sell an Hydrofoil 1977 Voskod-2 passenger ship.
"8","867546","5","JUDICIAL SALE - VosKod-2||867546","We have ac ourt order to sell an Hydrofoil 1977 Voskod-2 passenger ship.
"9","863081","5","Re; comparison of jetfoil and catamaran||863081","Catamarans make a bigger wake than a hydrofoils.Some Russian hydrofoils are shalow draft, like the Voskhod type.See www.dutchhydrofoils.com for examples of high speed ships navigating on the NorthSee canal.
"10","862464","5","Re; comparison of jetfoil and catamaran||862464","Jetfoil is a specific model of hydrofoil initially designed and built by Boeing Marine. It uses a fully-submerged hydrofoil design and is ocean-going. The hydrofoils that I have heard about being used on rivers are the surface-piercing hydrofoil type, mostly designed and built in Russia. Some hydrofoils built by Helmut Kock are still in use on Lake Titicaca in Peru. There is info on these and other hydrofoils throughout the IHS site and elsewhere.","2005-07-18","Barney C Black","nopswd"," "," ","0"
"11","859475","5","comparison of jetfoil and catamaran||859475","Dear reader,
Does anybody know why catamarans are not used on rivers for the commercial transport of passengers whereas jetfoils are? What are the functional differences between jetfoil and catamaran that provoke the catamaran not to be used on rivers or canals. Does anybody know examples of high speed ships navigating on rivers and canals? I know about jetfoils in the netherlands and on the danube but that is just about as far as my knowledge stretches. I would be grateful for any information!
","2005-07-12","Chris Beghin","nopswd"," ","firstname.lastname@example.org","0"
"12","853110","5","LASTOCHKA-M HYDROFOIL NEWBUILDING CONTRACTING||853110","Dear sir,
Pls contact me as I'm very interested by your offers.
"13","852276","5","LASTOCHKA-M HYDROFOIL NEWBUILDING CONTRACTING||852276",""VOLGA" SHIPYARD PROPOSING NEW-BUILDING CONTRACTING FOR 'LASTOCHKA-M' TYPE PASSENGER HYDROFOIL. 75-86 PASSENGERS / SERVICE SPEED 45 KNOTS. FOR MORE INFORMATION AND PHOTOS CLICK HERE http://www.volga-shipyard.com/index.php?lang=eng§ion=products&catid=4&craft_id=24
WE ALSO LOOKING FOR CUTOMERS TO DEVELOPE NEW PERSPECTIVE PROJECT SEA-GOING HYDROFOIL 'KOMETA-120M'.
FOR MORE INFORMATION PLS CONTACT VYACHESLAV FEDOROV:
","2005-06-28","FEDOROV VYACHESLAV","nopswd"," ","SLAVA@CIELO-TRADING.NET","0"
"14","832530","5","INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY||832530","INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY
Calling For Investment in Passenger Fast Ferry Operation in West Coast of Africa.
"15","832472","5","Commercial Jetfoils||832472","Does anyone know how many Jetfoils are still operating in the world? Also whatever happenned to the ones that went to Indonesia and sat there for all these years? ","2005-05-21","Rod Clayards","nopswd"," ","email@example.com","0"
"16","831700","5","Former Seajets Engineer Will Tell All||831700","Aloha-
"18","780611","5","Re: Hydrofoils - Vietnam||780611","No personal experience. Schedules posted at the following webpages:
A traveler posted a couple of photos of the vessels at this page:
"19","780554","5","Hydrofoils - Vietnam||780554","We will be visiting Vung Tau, Vietnam, in late March as a part of a cruise to other places in Australia and SE Asia. We will have only one day in Vung Tau and I would like to travel by hydrofoil to Ho Chi Minh City for sightseeing and shopping. Does anyone have any experiences with the hydrofoil services from Vung Tau-HCMC and return? If there are companies recommended, or to be avoided, I would appreciate comments. If there are any other places in Australia, Singapore, or Thailand where we could have a hydrofoil or high-speed catamaran ride during a one-day tour stop, I would like to know about those also. Thanks.","2005-02-12","Ralph Patterson","nopswd"," ","RAPatterson.firstname.lastname@example.org","0"
"20","764235","5","METEOR-2000 HYDROFOIL FOR SALE||764235","ZELENODOLSK SHIPYARD, russia, OFFER NEW METEOR-2000 HYDROFOILS AND NEW FFF. 12 months - guaraties.
"21","750876","5","||||750876","We are investigating the possibilty of aquiring a small to medium size hydrofoil for commercial use on NE coast UK. Seating for 50/60 persons with shallow draft with foils retracted.
"22","744252","5","Re: Disco Volate||744252","Are you aware that Disco Volate/volante was a fake that did not fly?
I saw a TV program (was it Movie Magic?) that showed the special effects involved. They built a big model of the craft from the water line up. This was placed on a planing hull and was photographed at speed using a blue mat as a background. Then they inserted images of foils inplace of the planing hull.
I saw this quite a while ago, so I may be reporting some of these details inaccurately, but I definately remember my disappointment that this improbable design did not really fly in the movie.","2004-11-27","Ray Vellinga","nopswd"," ","email@example.com","0"
"23","738770","5","Investment Opportunity ||738770","Investment Opportunity in Passenger Fast Ferry Operation on West Coast of Africa
","2004-11-16","Yinka Olaipe","nopswd"," ","firstname.lastname@example.org","0"
"24","714918","5","Hydrofoils for sale||714918","Dear Mr. Whatley,
attached you will find information regarding two hydrofoils. In order to give an estimate of the shipping costs to SE Asia we have to know to which place they are to be shipped. We normally advise the vessels to be shipped as deck cargo. Both vessels are owned by a Dutch Shipping Company and the sale will be conducted directly from the owner. Both ships are currently registered in the Neteherlands.
"25","712040","5","Re: Purchase/Lease 2 Hydro Passenger Boats (used)||712040","We are in the process of narrowing the field of available crafts, can you forward any additional information regarding the two that you are offering.
"26","710440","5","For sale MTU 12V 331, W6 overh.||710440","One (1) W6 overhauled MTU 12V 331 TC82 marine engine for sale.
A W6 overhaul of a 12V 331 cost 80-100.000 EUR or more today.
Price: 65.000 EUR or best offer.
"27","706667","5","Re: Disco Volate||706667","There is info on the Disco Volante in several areas of the IHS correspondence archives. Most of the interest is from people who want to model the vessel. Go to each of the following pages and scroll down in the correspondence or search on the page for Disco Volante. Also feel free to try to contact any of the people who has corresponded on this subject to see if they have more recent information:
A newspaper ad offering the vessel for sale is at:
Note that Jean Buhler of Miami Shipbuilding is still alive and well, so you could call him if you want to chat about this vessel or any other MSC projects.
"28","705949","5","amphibian hovrcraft(10T-20T)Russian||705949","I would like to take lease amphibian hovercraft for long tram basis for cargo purpose.If you are interested please inform me as soon as possiable.","2004-09-09","Ruman Barua","nopswd"," ","rum27m@yahoo,com","0"
"29","705497","5","LOOKING TO BUY HYDROFOILS.||705497","I am interested in receiving information on new (or not too old) foils for passengers for sale and/or lease. They have to hold at least 100pp.
Please send price, photos, characteristics and conditions of sale.
Anyone with this kind of foils for sale, please contact me at
"30","703351","5","Re: seeking old russian high speed hydrofoils ||703351","We currently have an older Meteor Hydrofoil available. It is not offered for lease but for sale. However the asking price is only
Marcel Roelofs","2004-09-02","Chevalier Floatels","nopswd"," ","email@example.com","0"
"31","703339","5","Hydrofoils for sale||703339","We currently have 2 hydrofoils for sale which are very reasonably priced. Both are Meteoor and have been in service until recently. Both vessels are still in class.
I will send you some pictures and some information per seperate email","2004-09-02","Chevalier Floatels","nopswd"," ","firstname.lastname@example.org","0"
"32","702063","5","Disco Volate||702063","I am looking for the Flying Fish Hydrofoil used in the James Bond movie Thunderball. Its movie name was the Disco Volante. Any info would be appreciated.
"33","699313","5","Purchase/Lease 2 Hydro Passenger Boats (used)||699313","We represent a concern wishing to lease/buy 2 used passenger boats, to be operated in SE Asia. Must have excellent log of maintenance etc. 35+ mph, 240+ PAX. We are quite serious and will consider serious opportunities only. Please feel free to forward leads to our email as well.
"34","694828","5","seeking old russian high speed hydrofoils ||694828","i am seeking russian old hydrofoils for long tarms lease any type of condition (rocket, cyclone,kometa7,vliegb,oly15,kara4,metrus)please contact by mail","2004-08-15","Ruman Barua","nopswd"," ","email@example.com","0"
"35","691580","5","Re; I Need some Help||691580","Hi Andreh
Captain Ali Jodat
"36","691508","5","Re; I Need some Help||691508","andre,
please take digital photos, send them to me or mail to
Hablo un poco de espanol, y trabaje in Brazil por dos meses en 1993, entonces puede comprehende un poco de portugues.
I am going to Paraguay in six months, would love to look at your equipment with the idea to purchase all three craft, for conversion or to put into service.
Please indicate where you are,
jeffrey Phipps,","2004-08-07","jeff phipps","nopswd"," ","firstname.lastname@example.org","0"
[Date/Time=03-24-2002 - 3:12 PM] Name:email@example.com [Msgid=237684]
[3 Dec 97] I am a commercial harvester of a blue green algae on Upper Klamath Lake, Klamath Falls, Oregon, USA. The raw product is transported 10 to 14 miles to its drop-off point. We will be upgrading our transport system for the next harvest season. Our objectives are as follows: two (2) transport boats, each 24 to 26 ft. in length; payload of 2500 lb. ; transport speed 60 mph at 70% power. Klamath lake is 25 miles long, 5 miles wide and averages 9 ft. deep. The lake level will seasonally drop to 4.5 ft. in the shallower spots that we must cross. 2 to 3 ft. chop is to be expected when
sudden winds occur. We are currently talking with American Offshore (Grove Oklahoma - 26 ft. tunnel), Shoell Marine (24 ft. step hull, fiberglass, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida) and Wind River (step hull, 24-26ft. alum. Pasco Washington) All these folks claim to be able to get the job done with 400 to 550 hp. That works out to 20 to 24 gallons per hour in fuel, or US$432 per day, or US$43,000 per year.
Enter the foil-- will it work, is it more economical, do they break away when you hit a solid object? OK folks, as you can see we are hunting. Look forward to your input, positive or otherwise.
-- Mike Reynolds, Flos-Aquae llc (firstname.lastname@example.org)
[21 Mar 98] Re: the Algae harvester, a Hydrofoils, Inc. craft to move (6) 462 lb. drums and two people at 70 mph @ 75% power two 4 hour shifts / day, with reasonable periodic down time for maintenance, will cost just over US$200,000. Flos-Aquae 11c wanted something in the $US50,000 price range, and I'm sure no boat will meet that criteria for that price. We did some heavy calculations and drawings, and the boat is basically designed. I would loved to have this project but I don't think it's going to fly at this time.
Ken Cook, Hydrofoils, Inc. (email@example.com)
Click Below to Open related Archive.
[Date/Time=03-25-2002 - 3:54 PM] Name:Webmaster@foils.org [Msgid=238100]
- Year of manufacture: 1992 or later
- Number of passengers: 65 - 85
- Speed: at least 60 km/h
Could you please help us locate reliable suppliers, thank you in advance.
SECOIN CO., LTD.
Address: 59 Hang Chuoi Street, Hai Ba Trung District
Phone: 84-4-971 8899 (6lines) ; Fax: 84-4-971 8898
Email: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org or mailto:email@example.com
URL: http://www.secoin-ltd.com or http://www.seterra.com
SECOIN Import-Export Forum: http://secoin.go.to/
SECOIN Trade Bulletin Board: http://secoin.come.to/
SECOIN Photo Center: http://clik.to/secoin
[Date/Time=05-04-2002 - 8:20 AM] Name:Hong Duong firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=255274]
[Date/Time=05-04-2002 - 11:54 AM] Name:Hein Vogel email@example.com, [Msgid=255349]
Attached File "Vessel 1~jpg.zip" - size 259374 Click Here To Download
Thanks for the accompying Photos of the vessel. Do you have any more details on its charaterictics that indicate what makes it a high performance freey? Are there foils that I see between the catamaran hulls? With additional information we would add the vessel to our site. And if you have a Web Site supporting your sales efforts we would be happy to add it to our links page.
As a volunteer organization we do not endorse or support sales. However, we are happy to post your notice for the benefit of our members.
[Date/Time=05-04-2002 - 8:59 PM] Name:Bill White Asst. Webmaster whitewn@Speakeasy.net, [Msgid=255472]
Check out our Archive at http://www.foils.org/buyferry.htm for more information on where to Buy.
If you would like, we would be happy to list you web site on our Links page where potential sellers often go to be matched up with buyers.
Keep us posted.
[Date/Time=05-04-2002 - 9:07 PM] Name:Bill White Asst. Webmaster firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=255474]
[Date/Time=05-09-2002 - 5:33 AM] Name:Barney C. Black email@example.com, [Msgid=257264]
The ferry is a hydrofoil-supported catamaran (Hysucat) that was built in Cape Town, South Africa and is presently being used to take tourists from Cape Town to Robben Island (Nelson Mandela's old prison). The foils were designed and optimized by Prof. Hoppe and myself at the University of Stellenbosch. I can supply some pictures and info if Hein is unable.
[Date/Time=05-09-2002 - 11:40 AM] Name:Gunther Migeotte firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=257372]
Specifications presented in good faith:
76' high speed passenger vessel. Located in Victoria and Alfred Waterfront, Cape Town, South Africa. Asking price: US$1.325.000
MODEL: High speed passenger vessel
BUILDER: T-Craft & Waterfront Charters
DESIGNER: J. R. Van Niekerk, Boatfloat cc.
TYPE: Tandem hydrofoil-supported catamaran passenger ferry
Dual foils made of high-grade stainless steel, specially designed for this vessel after tank tests. The center foil is 9.75 feet wide and 1.6 feet long. Each foil is positioned at bottom of hull. The vessel rises 2 feet out of the water at approx. 18 mph, reducing the hull wetted surface considerably, and effectively providing approx. 30% more speed and reducing the fuel consumption by approx. 28%.
TOP: Open sundeck with seating for 46 passengers
ENGINES: 2 x MTU / DDC 12v (fitted new 30 July 2000) with standard drive shafts and propellers.
ENGINE HOURS: (at 03-05-2002) 1192 Port, 1189 Starboard.
(1) Approx. 21 US gallons/hour/engine/ 528 gallons/22k = 550 miles
(2) Approx. 30 gallons/hour/engine/528 gallons/32k = 544 miles
RIG: Mast with cross trees for navigation light etc
MATERIAL: Superstructure: marine grade aluminum, marine grade painted.
Hull: glass reinforced plastic and balsacore sandwich construction with GRP and foam ring beams.
Deck: Laminated wooden beams bonded to hull construction.
SPEED: Cruising: 26 knots (laden) Maximum: 32 knots at 2300 rpm
TANKS: Fuel:2 x 528 US gallons Water: 396 gallons
WEIGHT: 42 metric tons (light ship). 65 metric tons with fuel & water. 86 metric tons GRT
ACCOMMODATIONS AND LAYOUT:
All passenger seating is on tracks in the saloon and can be modified from ferry style (cinema) to restaurant, conference or school room style. Large kiosk / bar with access from interior and exterior. 145 passengers + 8 crew (including master) = 153 total.
BRIDGE INSTRUMENTS & NAVIGATION EQUIPMENT:
* MTU engine: computerized instruments linked to dual engine room computer panels providing revolutions, oil pressures, oil & water temperatures, injection pressure, gearbox conditions, etc.
* Navigational: Navico, Corus system, providing speed & log depth, windspeed & direction, compass heading, autopilot etc.
* MTU portable engine controls for docking procedure.
* Simrad radar RA772, 24 nautical mile range.
* Simrad RT 1200 VHF radio.
* Two ICOM IC-GM1500 VHF emergency portable radios.
* Ritchie compass.
* ITT Jabsco searchlight.
* All tanks monitoring panel.
* A/C switch panel, 50Hz.
* 12v - 24v switch panel.
* P&S docking lights.
* Emergency ship intercom & fog / siren system.
* Ringmaster intercom system throughout vessel.
* Chubb fire system with sensors and alarms throughout vessel.
* Chubb security system with sensors and alarms throughout vessel.
* JVC KS Fx230 Radio & CD player.
* Lofrans electric windlass control.
* Panasonic air conditioner
INSTRUMENTS IN SALOON:
* Two JVC TV units.
* Sharp VC RA33 video system.
* Panasonic music sound system, amplifiers & speakers.
* Two Panasonic air conditioners.
* Two Panasonic air down curtains.
* Lights dimmer controls.
* Fire system sensors & alarms.
* Security sensors.
Generator: Perkins model 1004T, 240 volt, 50Hz, 20 KVA.
DECK AND HULL:
Glass reinforced plastic and balsacore sandwich construction with GRP and foam ring beams. Deck is made of marine plywood bonded to laminated wooden beams and watertight bulkheads to form a strong integral construction.
MECHANICAL AND ENGINE EQUIPMENT:
* Main engines: 2 x MTU / DDC 12v 92 2000 m90 (fitted 30 July 2000)
* 2 x 1350 Hp (2 x 1007 kW)
* Fuel Consumption: 80 liters per hour at 26 knots (savings due to adjustable foil system)
[Date/Time=05-09-2002 - 11:16 PM] Name:Bill White email@example.com, [Msgid=257698]
Attached File "Pic9~jpg.zip" - size 284815 Click Here To Download
Thanks for the offer. We received plenty of pictures of the overall craft, but none of the Foils themselves.
I have always thought that catamarans made great hulls for hydrofoils. I even got as far as working with the French Navy via NATO while they did a design and model tested a catamaran hydrofoil that fully lifted out of the water on it's fully submerged Foil system. It confirmed all my performance beliefs, but was never built for the usual Monohulls are good enough reasons.
If you have any photos of the foil system on HUSUCAT, it would be a wecome addition to our web site along with any commentary you could provide.
IHS BBS Moderator
[Date/Time=05-13-2002 - 11:21 AM] Name:Bill White, BBS Moderator firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=258802]
I have some photos of the foils on the boat as well as some of the foils being constructed. I will scan a couple and post them here shortly.
[Date/Time=05-19-2002 - 9:23 AM] Name:Gunther Migeotte email@example.com, [Msgid=261225]
For photo's of the first new Voskhod-2M for Fast Flying Ferries.
Build by Feodosia shipbuilding association "MORYE".
[Date/Time=05-22-2002 - 6:38 AM] Name:Capt M Van Rijzen firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=262426]
Attached File "vos-2m~jpg.zip" - size 17457 Click Here To Download
[Date/Time=05-24-2002 - 4:07 AM] Name:Barney C. Black email@example.com, [Msgid=263297]
"...Due to the rolling of ocean swells, the sonar of a hydrofoil can't see surface objects - even BIG objects - like whales in its path. Compounding this problem, the fast speed of a hydrofoil is typically nothing a whale is accustomed to, and the whale may not be able to avoid a collision even if it hears one coming. Indeed, the whales which spend most time at the surface are the babies, which are nearly invisible even to a boat going a fraction the speed of a hydrofoil... "
[Date/Time=05-24-2002 - 4:20 AM] Name:Barney C. Black firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=263299]
The reference to "sonar" in the Greenpeace article is presumably referring to the navigation radar that would be fitted to commercial hydrofoils.
[Date/Time=05-25-2002 - 6:26 AM] Name:Martin Grimm email@example.com, [Msgid=263686]
[Date/Time=05-27-2002 - 8:20 AM] Name:FCC(SW) Kevin Hufnagle (ret) firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=264145]
at the locks in IJmuiden.
With as deckcargo hull#605.
I will try to update my site A.S.A.P...
[Date/Time=05-31-2002 - 2:12 AM] Name:Capt Mark van Rijzen email@example.com, [Msgid=265844]
[14 Oct 97] I am a student in an English university, and my Strategic Management Project is about passenger hydrofoils; I would like info about the advantages and disadvantages compared to other means of transport, analysis, specific magazines about hydrofoils, and how I can join IHS. -- Mike Koronaios
[Date/Time=07-14-2002 - 7:58 PM] Name:Martin Grimm firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=282357]
[Date/Time=07-20-2002 - 5:56 AM] Name:Mark van Rijzen email@example.com, [Msgid=284541]
Thanks for posting the great photo. We would appreciate it if you could add some additional details about the craft and her history.
I went to your Web Site. Very interesting. Perhaps you could share some of your background and the purpose of the site with us. I would be happy to transfer it more permanently within our Web site so others can share your interests.
IHS BBS manager
[Date/Time=07-20-2002 - 3:49 PM] Name:Bill White firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=284646]
[Date/Time=07-21-2002 - 5:05 PM] Name:Barney C Black email@example.com, [Msgid=284928]
I always liked the old Fast Flying Ferries (FFF) Voskhod colour scheme but the new one is nice as well.
Could you perhaps tell us what the unusual projection is at the stem of the bow? It is something that is not fitted to the original FFF Voskhods but was apparent on this the new craft, particularly on some of the other photos on your website.
[Date/Time=07-22-2002 - 6:13 AM] Name:Martin Grimm firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=285079]
[Date/Time=07-29-2002 - 4:26 AM] Name:Capt Mark van Rijzen email@example.com, [Msgid=287625]
Attached File "vos-2mnewcol01~JPG.zip" - size 629459 Click Here To Download
[Date/Time=07-29-2002 - 5:04 AM] Name:Capt Mark van Rijzen firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=287631]
LINDA LINE FOILCAT PULLED OUT OF SERVICE
the new superfoil 40 foil assisted catamaran for the Linda Line, LINDA EXPRESS, built by Almaz Marine in St Petersburg entered service on the Tallinn-Helsinki route in July 22nd. THe 40m, 288 seat, 55 knot vessel had arrived in the estonian captial already on 16th June, completing the delivery trip from St. Petersburg in 3.5 hours. But only 3 days after its inauguration on July 5th, the catamaran had to be pulled from service as 12 NM off the Estonian coast the starboard engines died and it was discovered the hull had been punctured and began taking on water. A floating log hit by the vessel was believed to have caused this.
[Date/Time=08-19-2002 - 10:20 PM] Name:Gunther Migeotte email@example.com, [Msgid=298219]
[Date/Time=09-11-2002 - 7:31 PM] Name:Neil Newman Newmans@1pinegrove.fsnet.co.uk, [Msgid=308543]
When I drove Carlo back to his house in Messina, he mentioned that they were breaking their heads over a new drive system, wanted for further development of their aliscafi, but had not come up with a satisfactory solution. He also mentioned that they would have loved to incorporate it in the GP 40, that, at that time, was being converted from a test bed into a luxury yacht (later to be sold to a man nicknamed "signore mezzo milliardo" by a newspaper for having paid 500 million lire for it).
Later that year, back in Belgium, I drew up some sketches and took them to Roelof Laan's engineering bureau in Dordrecht, Holland, to discuss them. A couple of months later or so I sent Carlo an outline of my idea to use a hydrostatic drive: pumps coupled to the engines, hydromotor/props mounted on the rear foil. That would certainly have done away with the shaft vibration and other problems that we had discussed. Carlo sent me a polite letter saying that my idea was totally unfeasable and not worth pursuing.
This afternoon, by coincidence, I came across your webpage at http://www.foils.org/navali.htm and, reminiscing about these bygone days, started to read and was quite surprised to read the following:
On the ground of the experience and exciting results with the RHS series, the technical department of Rodriquez Shipyard undertakes a series of studies on research and development which lead to the definition of a new product. The MEC (Maximum Efficiency Craft) series which adds the hydrostatic drive to the hydrofoil idea. This revolutionary propulsion system consisting of a set of hydraulic pumps coupled to a conventional diesel engine and a block of hydraulic motors placed on the foil in turn coupled to a propeller.
[Date/Time=09-14-2002 - 8:33 PM] Name:Takeo De Meter firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=309798]
I would like to console you with the news that the MEC design was not a technical or commercial success, but in these circumstances, and from your point of view, news of success or news of failure would be equally disappointing!
[Date/Time=09-14-2002 - 8:46 PM] Name:Barney C Black email@example.com, [Msgid=309803]
[Date/Time=09-14-2002 - 8:48 PM] Name:Takeo De Meter firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=309804]
[Date/Time=09-15-2002 - 7:55 PM] Name:Martin Grimm email@example.com, [Msgid=310083]
The full story was in Classic Fast Ferries #6 which is no longer available for download but a mail to Tim could help.
[Date/Time=09-17-2002 - 7:52 AM] Name:Eje Flodstrom firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=310754]
Thanks for that explanation. I have a copy of CFF #6 from 2000 and so it was worth reading the article on the RHS 110 series once again.
I didn't make the connection with the Aliyacht since Takeo had made reference to a small 5-6 metre craft. The Aliyacht was around 24.5m long. Jane's Surface Skimmers indicates the Aliyacht was powered by two supercharged MTU/Maybach MB 12V 439 TY 71 Diesels rated at 1350 hp which is similar to Takeo's recollections except that the installed power is greater. It may be possible that the craft was re-powered at some point to achieve greater performance.
[Date/Time=09-17-2002 - 9:34 PM] Name:Martin Grimm email@example.com, [Msgid=311120]
[Date/Time=11-05-2002 - 1:51 PM] Name:Robert Miller firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=333844]
For Others interested in this vessel: historical and other info, and photos of Bob Miller's resoration are on the IHS website at http://www.foils.org/albatross.htm. Historical information and photos on the Albatross in her prime are in the Helmut Kock biography at http://www.foils.org.kockbio.htm.
[Date/Time=11-07-2002 - 8:17 AM] Name:Barney C. Black email@example.com, [Msgid=334736]
If you can supply or Export to Vietnam market, please send to us:
1. Catalogues, Engine, model, Sepecification,
2. Price list FOB any port or CNF any Port Vietnam.
3. Origin, manufactory , Sepecification, Payment, quantity, quality....
Please send by Post Service to Letter-Box:
P.O.Box No.02 Thanh Khe Central Post Office
Danang City - Vietnam 59200
Or send by DHL - EMS to Address:
Commercial TW2 Building.No.45 Dung Si Thanh Khe Rd
Thanh Khe Dis., DaNang City - Vietnam
Atlantic International Co.,(Vietnam)
Attn: Mr. Nguyen Danh SON/ Director
Hotline: 090 3581157 * Fax: 0511-655 222
[Date/Time=12-13-2002 - 2:00 AM] Name:Nguyen Danh Son firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=350699]
He is the European contact person of the
Feodosia shipbuilding association"MORYE"
,situated in the Ukraine.
He can help you to buy a 100% new Voskhod-2M-FFF.
see my site for the first three Voskhod-2M-FFF ever build.
Here you can see also more info on the vessels.
The hydrofoils are great to operate!!!
[Date/Time=12-13-2002 - 3:24 AM] Name:Capt M van Rijzen email@example.com, [Msgid=350707]
Attached File "vos-2mnewcol01l~jpg.zip" - size 30148 Click Here To Download
There is the need to develop the sea transportation system in the highly populated area of the Niger Delta of Nigeria. Present developments taking place in the area justify this. Presently, there are no fast moving ferry crafts operating in that zone, meanwhile movement of people and goods between various cities, such as, Port Harcourt, Warri and say Bonny, Forcados (which are on the Atlantic Ocean coast line) is high and deserve serious attention.
It is our intention to propose to the relevant government agencies, the idea of generally modernizing the transportation system in the Niger Delta zone, to include towns on the bank of River Niger.
The type of vessel we intend to propose for this ferry operation will be either Hydrofoil or Hovercraft, this will speed up movement, yet be very safe
We are looking for interested companies that will want to consider doing business in Nigeria, on joint venture basis, to offer proposal on this subject, noting the following conditions:
1. Supply, Operate and Maintain NEW or REFURBISHED vessel. Refurbished vessel must not
be over 5 years of age from the date of manufacture.
2. Supply adequate spare parts for 2 years operation
3. The vessel shall be standard passenger ferry with basic facilities/amenities.
4. The vessel shall have service speed (at sea) of between 40 and 55 knots.
5. Fuel consumption must be minimum.
6. Training local personnel to operate and maintain the vessel.
We, of course, will be glad to receive proposals from companies that may only want to sell vessels and not involve themselves in the operation, however, such proposal must satisfy our above requirements/conditions.
Any company that is interested in this venture should come up with a detailed proposal that should be mailed to our address below. Make it for the attention of our Managing Director, Kadiri P. Otaru.
We shall appreciate an initial e-mail introduction.
Solid Base Nigeria Limited
25A, Fatai Atere Way,
Matori, Oshodi, Lagos.
PO Box 369,
NITEL Train. Sch. Post Office,
Tel. 234 1 523018
Tel/Fax 2341 4526782 (You may send fax to the number 234 1 4934696, 4960338)
GSM numbers: 234 (0)803 3006423 or 234 (0)802 3109874
[Date/Time=01-20-2003 - 10:07 AM] Name:Kadiri P. Otaru firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=364450]
[Date/Time=02-06-2003 - 12:06 PM] Name:charlotte gillis email@example.com, [Msgid=373335]
[Date/Time=02-07-2003 - 5:12 AM] Name:Sumi Arima firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=373798]
There is loads of informatiom on the net if you need the details &
schedules/prices etc. I don't think there has been a hydrofoil service
on that route since we operated the Boeing Jetfoil demonstration for
Washington State Ferries 1n the late 70's & early 80's.
[Date/Time=02-07-2003 - 11:24 AM] Name:Bruce Bryant email@example.com, [Msgid=373950]
import 2 second hand hydrofoils (high speed boat). The type of hydrofoil which we
intending to choose is "METEOR 125 seats", we want you to give us more detail information as
as PRICE of the hydrofoil
Moreover, we want the hydrofoil which was newly built : at least
1991 or 1992( this make us more easier in registering at Vietnam). So
have any question relalting to this deal, please do not hesitage to
Name of company: American technologies,. Inc
Website: www.ativietnam.com or www.bvom.com
Address: 26 Pham Van Dong st; Cau giay dist; Hanoi VietNam
Fax: 84-4- 7681568
Contact person: Nguyen Duc Toan
Mail: firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com
[Date/Time=03-12-2003 - 2:20 AM] Name:Toannguyen firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=394349]
Please send us full details of the craft suitable to our requirement. While sending the details please positively include the speed, cost of running and CIF Kolkata, India prices.
Sriniwas Fatehpuria Pvt. Ltd. (est. 1949)
82/2, M. R. Babu Street
Kolkata - 700 007.
Phn : +91 33 2241 5874 - 5
Fax : +91 33 2241 1169
E-Mail : email@example.com
[Date/Time=04-09-2003 - 7:51 AM] Name:Ravi Fatehpuria firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=413150]
scrap, which can be towed to Alexandria Egypt. Can you offer any? Or can you recommend to us any web site to visit in this regard?
[Date/Time=04-16-2003 - 7:18 PM] Name:M. Khaled Naweto email@example.com, [Msgid=418564]
Our company has two Voskhod hydrofoils for "scrap" sale.
[Date/Time=04-17-2003 - 2:57 PM] Name:Capt M van Rijzen firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=419198]
[Date/Time=04-21-2003 - 5:44 AM] Name:Rauff Kareem email@example.com, [Msgid=421164]
[Date/Time=04-28-2003 - 12:31 PM] Name:Sarah Mack SMACK1@tampabay.rr.com, [Msgid=426450]
[Date/Time=04-28-2003 - 12:36 PM] Name:Barney C. Black firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=426453]
when you talk about the Output Power of a vessel, you have the engine output, shaft output, waterjet output, propeller output ... and also you have the RPM readings for an engine, do you have a common format when you talk about the output power of a vessel ?
or where should I go for a simple tutorial for the definitions of the basic parameters of a vessel ?
[Date/Time=05-07-2003 - 10:27 AM] Name:Kevin Tse email@example.com, [Msgid=431479]
I note that you have posted on the International Hydrofoil Society (IHS) bulletin board a question about power. Most refer to the horsepower available at the specified RPM of the propulsion engine installed.
[Date/Time=05-09-2003 - 8:54 PM] Name:Sumi Arima firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=433336]
[Date/Time=05-10-2003 - 10:28 AM] Name:Rachid Khelouat email@example.com, [Msgid=433481]
I will provide vessels available.
I am currently located in Dubai working with clients.
The InterMar Group
[Date/Time=05-11-2003 - 11:18 AM] Name:Tom Schneider firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=433830]
[Date/Time=05-11-2003 - 12:00 PM] Name:Christopher Whitlock email@example.com, [Msgid=433847]
I would agree with Sumi that the installed engine power is most commonly referred to when quoting the 'power' of a ship. Of course each type of engine has all sorts of different power ratings, but the most commonly referred to is "Maximum Continuous Rating" or MCR.
When calculating the speed a ship can attain, it is important to account for all the losses in transmitting the engine power to the water, hence allowing for gearbox and shaft losses through friction, and hydrodynamic losses due to the hull and propulsion system. Other losses are associated with such items as fluid couplings and hydraulic or electrical propulsion systems (where generator, convertor, transmission and motor losses need to be allowed for).
In terms of RPM, it is not unusual for the propeller shaft RPM to be identified rather than the engine RPM, however these are simply related to one another by the gear ratio of any gearbox (invariably a reduction gearbox) installed in the ship.
Marine Engineering or Naval Architecture textbooks should be helpful in defining some of the parameters that are commonly used. For example, you may be able to access a copy of Volume 2 of "Principles of Naval Architecture" published by the Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers (SNAME).
[Date/Time=05-13-2003 - 8:16 AM] Name:Martin Grimm firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=434658]
[Date/Time=05-14-2003 - 11:24 AM] Name:Gunther Migeotte email@example.com, [Msgid=435340]
Hope this helps
[Date/Time=05-15-2003 - 12:06 PM] Name:Bill White firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=435954]
I have taken it twice. The evening boat leaves San Diego at 5:35 and reaches Oceanside in 1.5 hours. You can enjoy a resaurant dinner at the Oceanside harbor and walk or taxi to the Amtrak station to catch the 9:23 to San Diego, arriving two blocks from your departure. The boat costs $5.00 and the train is about the same. The program is temporarily subsidized by a government grant.
The Wave is a 149 passenger boat with four 1,000 HP diesel engines powering two water jets. The hull is supported by submerged foils fore and aft. These foils partially elevate the hull, and the load is shared by the planing hull.
This hybrid system has advantages over a pure planing hull. It uses less power and fuel. It has a relatively small wake that allows 45 MPH passage through the crowded San Diego harbor. Its motion at sea is relatively comfortable. Less roll, pitch and pounding.
[Date/Time=05-15-2003 - 10:17 PM] Name:Ray Vellinga email@example.com, [Msgid=436293]
I can back up what Bill has said. I once asked a KaMeWa representative whether it was possible to get performance data for their waterjet series, just as is normal for standard propeller series. The reply was that by all means we could obtain KaMeWa performance predictions and selection of the most suitable size units for a design in question, but the company does not provide general design charts. Once a design is developed in more detail additional data can usually be obtained from the waterjet manufacturer on the thrust vs RPM & input power relationships at different ship speeds.
[Date/Time=05-19-2003 - 7:57 AM] Name:Martin Grimm firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=437779]
[Date/Time=06-03-2003 - 7:30 AM] Name:Gerry Levine email@example.com, [Msgid=446219]
Passenger capacity: 120-150
Speed: 35-40 kts
I am currently operating two fast crafts serving the same place.
[Date/Time=06-23-2003 - 5:22 PM] Name:Felicito Datinguinoo firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=458458]
[Date/Time=07-01-2003 - 7:22 PM] Name:Kurt Jordan email@example.com, [Msgid=463048]
Does anyone know why Boeing gave up the developement of the Jetfoil 929 and sold the whold deal to Kawasaski in 1987?
Were the 2 929-120 patrol-boat shipped to Indonesia? and did the Indonesian armed their 929-120s? According to the Kawasaki JPS website (seems to be the last and the most "official" website about Jetfoil left on the planet..), the Indonesian are now having 2 Jetfoils, I'd like to know which 2 is the Indonesian operating now? and where's the others?
Does the Indonesian still have the building licence and the capability to build Jetfoils?
And Finally, how many Boeing/Kawasaki Jetfoils are still operating?
[Date/Time=07-06-2003 - 6:26 AM] Name:Felix Ng firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=465206]
As to why Boeing decided to get out of the Jetfoil business, there are a few retired Boeing people who worked on the Jetfoil program and who visit the IHS website, so hopefully one of them will respond to you and give some insight.
Parenthetically, China State Shipbuilding Corp offers and is still making (or able to make) a high speed hydrofoil ferry the PS 30 that looks pretty much like a reverse engineered Jetfoil.
As to how many Jetfoils are still operating today, possibly the best source of that information would be Fast Ferry International (www.fastferryinfo.com). They publish a database of vessels, operators, shipyards, etc. I checked the 1995 version of that database, which is the latest I have, and found that 38 Jetfoils were listed as operating at that time.
[Date/Time=07-07-2003 - 6:07 AM] Name:Barney C Black email@example.com, [Msgid=465573]
[Date/Time=07-07-2003 - 11:58 AM] Name:Harry Larsen firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=465696]
[Date/Time=07-14-2003 - 8:07 AM] Name:John email@example.com, [Msgid=466507]
I sent you some information some time ago regarding our company and some of the vessels we have built. I understand that you are looking for a high speed passenger vessel for the Aquarium. We have 30 conventional passenger catamaran ferries, that we have built, that we could show you. We have the technology available to us from Unstel in South Africa to apply lifting foils to our existing designs. We would be happy to meet with you to discuss your specific needs and make a formal presentation.
Peter J. Duclos
President, Director of Business Development
1 Riverside Ave. Box 300
Somerset, MA 02726-0300
Phone: (01) 508-676-8596
Fax: (01) 508-672-1873
Web site: http://www.gladding-hearn.com
Important Notice: This message and attachment(s) are the property of Duclos Corporation
and are intended only for the original recipient(s). They must not be copied or forwarded,
in whole or in part without their express written permission.
[Date/Time=07-15-2003 - 8:52 AM] Name:Peter J. Duclos firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=470095]
[Date/Time=07-16-2003 - 6:57 AM] Name:Felix Ng email@example.com, [Msgid=470823]
[Date/Time=09-05-2003 - 3:01 AM] Name:Danijel Miskovic firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=501200]
[Date/Time=09-07-2003 - 9:34 AM] Name:Barney C Black email@example.com, [Msgid=502447]
I guess I am the right person who knows about five Boeing Jetfoil in Indonesia.
If any persons want to make any deals with this vessels please do not hesitate to contact us at firstname.lastname@example.org or my fax 62 31 561 2293.
We wellcome to any posibilities to work with.
[Date/Time=09-20-2003 - 7:21 PM] Name:Sentot Adi Pramono email@example.com, [Msgid=511166]
What is the distance between this two island?
How many trip per day/week/year?
How much the rate per trip per passenger?
I am in position to find out any cooperation for Indonesian Boeing Jetfoil.
[Date/Time=09-20-2003 - 7:26 PM] Name:Sentot Adi Pramono firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=511168]
passenger sevices between Gulf islands.
Fule+crew+shore offices+maintnance services+P&O and full insurances
will be on our side and a very high revenue is guaranted.
Captain Ali Jodat
[Date/Time=12-04-2003 - 4:57 PM] Name:Captain Ali Jodat email@example.com, [Msgid=554213]
[Date/Time=12-05-2003 - 12:37 PM] Name:Daryan firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=554659]
Andre Regueira - Florianopolis - Santa Catarina - Brazil
[Date/Time=03-26-2004 - 10:15 AM] Name:Andre Regueira email@example.com, [Msgid=621297]
[Date/Time=03-26-2004 - 9:16 PM] Name:Barney C Black firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=621641]
[Date/Time=04-06-2004 - 6:00 PM] Name:Robert Miller email@example.com, [Msgid=627414]
all three are the same brand:MERCEDES.
are complet and with all details.
one of the 3 motors has Zero our working and the other tow has worked 3000 ours.
price:for the new one:100 000 USD.
the tow other:80 000 USD each.
all three motors:200 000 USD.
if you are interested then feel free to ask for more details.
[Date/Time=06-24-2004 - 1:39 PM] Name:Daniel firstname.lastname@example.org, [Msgid=669225]
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